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What happened to EXIF?

Stiga

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What happened to the brief EXIF data below images? I am sure it was there when we started out but I don't see it now

FOP:
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Another X-F Forum:
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Hi Martin.

Having the EXIF automatically loaded underneath or above the images is a top priority for us but it will take a bit of time as XenForo doesn't have the ability to do this on the board (although full EXIF is shown in the Galleries!).

Cameraderie has this ability because Kevin apparently developed the code for it. And is sitting on it. Which is understandable.

In the mean time you can use a browser extension (like xIFr for Firefox) to show the EXIF in a pop-up window, right clicking on the image on a PC or a ctrl click on the Mac. So at least we can view the data, unless it is not included in the file of course.

But know that it is on top of our to-do list.
 
Thanks, Levina

Yes, I know of the browser plugins but if I add any more they start fighting 🥶

But I am reassured that it is on the to-do list
 
Who's our php person? I've written EXIF-extracting php code before. If there isn't a plug-in ready to go, we're going to have to add code. It's not necessarily a huge deal. Nothing wrong with discussions of this roadmap (our roadmap to EXIF display) being public.

BTW, on a related note it seems that the webp image format will be supported in the next version of XF. However, it also seems that webp does not keep EXIF, although there is a webp container implementation that does. Many XF forums are interested in automatic conversion of uploads to webp in the interests of both serving speed and storage needs.
 
What is a good EXIF viewing plug-in for Safari? I've been looking and every search result is a dead end.
 
There is probably a plug-in available for xenforo to show exif data although I'm not specifically familiar with it. They are fairly common though. Envira gallery for Wordpress has one. I think Wordpress has one. That isn't forum software though.
 

I suspect this is it. I'm sure imagick is already being used but perhaps not.
 
Is it best practice to add images to the gallery and then sub post them on the forum?
Whatever you like to do. I prefer to upload images directly onto the board and maybe have what I consider my best images added to my gallery. That will make a small gallery though! 😁 But you know, whatever you prefer.

I suspect this is it. I'm sure imagick is already being used but perhaps not.
That is an addon we installed to retain the EXIF because the software was stripping it from attached (uploaded) images. So the EXIF is present (if and when included in the file of course) but it doesn't make it visible on the board. You can use a browser extenstion/addon like xIFr for Firefox to view it and that's something, but we really want to have the exif automatically loaded underneath an image once it is uploaded. We're working on it.
 
Whatever you like to do. I prefer to upload images directly onto the board and maybe have what I consider my best images added to my gallery. That will make a small gallery though! 😁 But you know, whatever you prefer.

That is an addon we installed to retain the EXIF because the software was stripping it from attached (uploaded) images. So the EXIF is present (if and when included in the file of course) but it doesn't make it visible on the board. You can use a browser extenstion/addon like xIFr for Firefox to view it and that's something, but we really want to have the exif automatically loaded underneath an image once it is uploaded. We're working on it.
Ahhhh... so it's retaining it but doesn't allow you to do too much with it. That's unfortunate.
 
Ahhhh... so it's retaining it but doesn't allow you to do too much with it. That's unfortunate.
I’m not certain but the folks (forums) who have the information displayed under the photo seems to have a custom coded add-on. Doesn’t appear to be a commercially available option although maybe there is somebody who’s selling it to photography forums. Other types of forums don’t care about EXIF.
 
What is mystifying is the reluctance of the XenForo developers from incorporating exif support into their development roadmap. From what I have seen, they seem to be fairly nonchalant about dismissing it as worthy of any consideration. So we are left scrambling to create third party add-ons for what is a pretty important feature.
 
What is mystifying is the reluctance of the XenForo developers from incorporating exif support into their development roadmap. From what I have seen, they seem to be fairly nonchalant about dismissing it as worthy of any consideration. So we are left scrambling to create third party add-ons for what is a pretty important feature.
I think it’s because most forums don’t care about EXIF. It makes sense for photography forums but not much else. And yes it’s important to us.

Just have to find a coder who’ll develop one. I don’t suppose the photography forums who have such a thing would be too interested in selling their code/add-on. They view us a “competition”. Cameraderie, RFShooters and mu-43.com have a very similar add-on. Not sure if the coder at Cameraderie sold it to the other two but I think maybe as I know he coded it himself.
 
I was doing some web development recently and ran across a snippet of php code that pulled EXIF info. I didn't pay much attention as I was able to use a plug-in for the application. I'll see if I can find that again. I THINK it was on an envira galleries development site.

Not sure it would translate to Xenforo but I would think much could be adapted.
 
I was doing some web development recently and ran across a snippet of php code that pulled EXIF info. I didn't pay much attention as I was able to use a plug-in for the application. I'll see if I can find that again. I THINK it was on an envira galleries development site.
Very cool, John. Thanks!
Not sure it would translate to Xenforo but I would think much could be adapted.
We could certainly try to see if it fits or make it fit.
 
Hi Martin.

Having the EXIF automatically loaded underneath or above the images is a top priority for us but it will take a bit of time as XenForo doesn't have the ability to do this on the board (although full EXIF is shown in the Galleries!).

Cameraderie has this ability because Kevin apparently developed the code for it. And is sitting on it. Which is understandable.

In the mean time you can use a browser extension (like xIFr for Firefox) to show the EXIF in a pop-up window, right clicking on the image on a PC or a ctrl click on the Mac. So at least we can view the data, unless it is not included in the file of course.

But know that it is on top of our to-do list.
I know this was a major headache for AMASS, easy if the image is uploaded with an EXIF but if off another server like Flickr quite hard.

I think Pekka had to scrape EXIF info of the image page with Flickr with all the parsing and data ambiguities that goes with it.

Would be great to on FoP however, possibly my most missed feature.
 
I know this was a major headache for AMASS, easy if the image is uploaded with an EXIF but if off another server like Flickr quite hard.

I think Pekka had to scrape EXIF info of the image page with Flickr with all the parsing and data ambiguities that goes with it.

Would be great to on FoP however, possibly my most missed feature.
The feature is sorely missed, Lester. I've said to people that it is high on our to-do list and I'm not lying. Problem is there is no commercial software, addon, code, that is available so we can't just buy it somewhere. Few sites need it and without demand it's not developed. Of course there are ways around that and we are looking into those.
 
The feature is sorely missed, Lester. I've said to people that it is high on our to-do list and I'm not lying. Problem is there is no commercial software, addon, code, that is available so we can't just buy it somewhere. Few sites need it and without demand it's not developed. Of course there are ways around that and we are looking into those.
There is EXIFtool https://exiftool.org/ which I am sure you know about, can run on windows or Mac, not sure about your server.

The IPR is probably needs a closer check depending on your commercial status.

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